Training For NBA Longevity | Georges Niang x Ben Kenyon
Speaker 1
(0:00) My name is Ben Kenyon. (0:02) I’m the head strength and conditioning coach for the Philadelphia 76ers, and today I get to work with George Nyang. (0:08) George and I are actually going to go through a quick workout that’s going to allow him to improve his posterior chain and get him to move in all three planes of motion.(0:16) I’ve been working in strength and conditioning close to about 20 years. (0:20) I love working in the pros. (0:21) I also have a platform called Great Day Squad, which is all about making every day great through movement and helping you improve your mind and body.(0:30) So it’s keep this foot flat, five, five, and five. (0:35) Okay. (0:36) And then switch it up.
Speaker 2
(0:38) So I’m here, five.
Speaker 1
(0:40) Yep. (0:40) So think about squatting more like straight down. (0:43) So you’re sitting your butt back.(0:44) I want you to go like, like down more. (0:47) Think about your knee. (0:47) There you go.(0:48) And drive that foot forward. (0:50) Boom. (0:50) Perfect.(0:51) So five there. (0:53) You should feel a lot of movement at your ankle. (0:56) Five out towards me.(1:00) Love it. (1:02) Hell yeah. (1:03) And five crossing under.(1:07) Boom. (1:07) Perfect. (1:08) Heck yeah.(1:10) Easy work. (1:19) There you go. (1:20) How are you feeling from yesterday?(1:22) Good. (1:22) Good. (1:23) Good.(1:23) Sweet. (1:27) Love it. (1:33) Perfect.(1:36) Perfect. (1:37) Crossing under. (1:41) Easy work.(1:42) Easy work. (1:46) Heck yeah. (1:48) Grabbing a seat right there.(1:49) We got 90-90s. (1:51) So we’re going to start like this, hands behind. (1:53) And I want 10 total.(1:54) So it’ll be one, two, all the way to 10.
Speaker 2
(2:00) There you go.
Speaker 1
(2:02) Perfect. (2:03) Easy work. (2:03) Love it.(2:05) Love it. (2:07) How are the hips feeling? (2:08) Good.(2:08) Good. (2:08) Good. (2:09) Hell yeah.(2:11) Love it. (2:13) Were you always big on training? (2:16) Is this like a, has this been something that like, I feel like you kind of picked it up a little more as we…
Speaker 2
(2:22) Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me is you always have an obsession with the sport that you’re playing. (2:27) But as you get older, you realize a competitive advantage is the training that you do, as you know. (2:34) So you’re always, as the higher level you go, you’re looking for a competitive advantage.(2:39) So I think training definitely played a huge impact on me, just taking care of my body, being able to go longer, faster, stronger for longer. (2:48) So… (2:48) What year is this?(2:49) Seven. (2:50) Year seven.
Speaker 1
(2:51) Come on, Vet. (2:51) Feels like year 15. (2:52) Come on, Vet.(2:53) So we’re going to go into the 90. (2:55) We’ll put this hand down and we’re going to reach under and then reach up. (3:00) And you’re going to go 10 and 10.(3:02) So 10 on that side and 10 on the other side. (3:05) I love it. (3:08) Year seven.(3:10) Does the body feel the same?
Speaker 2
(3:12) It definitely doesn’t. (3:14) But the thing that I have learned with training is that the more that you do train and take care of your body, I feel like the more longevity you have, the better you feel. (3:23) I remember early on, I wasn’t really doing this type of training.(3:28) Yep. (3:28) And I didn’t feel as great.
Speaker 1
(3:32) We’ll have a big reach in. (3:34) Perfect. (3:36) Am I reaching the right way right now?
Speaker 2
(3:37) Yep.
Speaker 1
(3:38) So think about reaching all the way through that hole. (3:41) There you go. (3:43) Perfect.(3:44) Perfect. (3:45) All the way through that hole. (3:46) Perfect.(3:48) There you go. (3:51) Easy 10. (3:52) Easy 10.(3:54) Heck yeah. (3:59) Last one. (4:01) Going over to the pad.(4:03) Let’s knock out some tantrums. (4:08) Let’s go 10 and 10. (4:10) So we’ll go for more of a march.(4:14) Drive those hips up, drive those knees, or excuse me, drive those elbows through the ground. (4:20) So keep those hips up. (4:23) Yep.(4:25) Heck yeah. (4:28) What would you say to yourself? (4:31) You’ve just dominated seven years.(4:34) So rookie you, what would you say to rookie you?
Speaker 2
(4:36) Oh, I think the biggest message is, people think opportunities are just granted to people, but that may happen. (4:45) That may happen few and far between, but you have to go out there and work hard and take advantage of those. (4:51) I feel like I’m a firm believer that hard work creates luck.
Speaker 1
(4:55) Two more.
Speaker 2
(4:57) And that’s what you need, I feel like, in all aspects. (4:59) I feel like all successful people have one common thing, and that’s grit.
Speaker 1
(5:03) They never quit. (5:05) The game changer, Copenhagen. (5:07) So we can go Copenhagen with the knee on here, or you can put your foot on here.
Speaker 2
(5:11) Okay.
Speaker 1
(5:12) You know what I’m talking about?
Speaker 2
(5:13) Copenhagen.
Speaker 1
(5:14) So like, if I’m like this.
Speaker 2
(5:16) Oh yeah.
Speaker 1
(5:17) And then I want that bottom leg to swing up. (5:23) We’re going to go 10, 10 of those. (5:25) Perfect.(5:26) So big drive up. (5:28) Perfect. (5:28) 10 and 10.(5:31) Stay nice and tall. (5:33) Hips forward. (5:34) Perfect.(5:35) There you go. (5:37) Love it. (5:39) The grit is tough.(5:41) Like I’ve seen over the last 10 years, some people don’t figure out what they actually need to be gritty at. (5:51) So like, working at the wrong things, especially at this level, you know. (5:56) How many guys have you seen, hips forward, there you go.(6:00) How many guys have you seen kind of overdo it in the wrong areas and play themselves out the league?
Speaker 2
(6:06) Yeah. (6:07) I mean, there’s a handful of people. (6:08) You don’t want to get caught doing things that aren’t going to benefit you.(6:12) I feel like that’s something that I’ve kind of tried to master the last couple of years of my career, because you can’t just confuse work for achievement, as the great late great Sam Cassell would say. (6:27) But yeah, I think if you can master what works for you, everybody has a routine. (6:32) I think that’s the biggest thing is find a routine for yourself.
Speaker 1
(6:36) What’s up? (6:38) I need a total of 12. (6:45) So six and six.(6:47) Let’s get the feet a little closer. (6:49) Perfect. (6:50) There you go.(6:51) Now go for it. (6:51) Nice and controlled. (6:53) Perfect.(6:55) Let’s just warm up. (6:57) I try not to rock those hips too much. (7:00) There you go.(7:02) Great control. (7:03) Great control. (7:06) Love it.(7:08) You’ll hop on up when you’re done. (7:10) Last thing, then we’re going to jump into it. (7:12) Rear foot elevated.(7:15) Let’s lift that heel off the ground. (7:17) We’ll go 30 second hold. (7:22) Give me two seconds.(7:23) Let me let me get you on this clock. (7:26) Make sure I get you right. (7:28) Ready?(7:30) I got you back here. (7:33) Perfect. (7:36) Then try to push that knee towards me.(7:40) There you go. (7:41) Yep. (7:42) You got 30 and 30 one time through each side.(7:45) You got 20 seconds left. (7:47) Love it. (7:49) Keep that leg straight.(7:50) Push it towards me. (7:53) Perfect. (7:54) 10 seconds.(7:57) Here we go. (7:58) Good work, George. (7:59) Five seconds.(8:02) Three, two, and switch it up. (8:06) How’d that feel on the knee? (8:07) Good?(8:08) Good. (8:08) Yeah. (8:09) Here we go.(8:11) On you. (8:14) Perfect. (8:15) Get a little lower.(8:17) There we go. (8:18) Love it. (8:20) Love it.(8:20) Push that knee out towards me. (8:22) Yep. (8:23) Perfect.(8:25) 20 seconds. (8:27) Good work, George. (8:28) Good work.(8:29) Good work. (8:34) 10 seconds. (8:39) Five, four, three, two, and good.(8:44) Two seconds. (8:46) Quick little breather. (8:47) Got your water right there?
Speaker 2
(8:48) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(8:49) Grab one real quick. (8:50) So, like, talk to me about your routine or if there was a routine early on compared to now. (8:56) Like, is there a big difference?
Speaker 2
(8:58) Yeah, I think the biggest thing early on is I would just come in and not really have a game plan. (9:06) Like, just do whatever. (9:07) Where, you know, like, check boxes.(9:10) Yep. (9:10) Where now it’s more like checking boxes that I’ve seen, like, improvement for me. (9:13) Where it’s, like, active recovery.(9:16) Yeah. (9:16) You don’t have to lift every day. (9:18) Facts.(9:19) But I think the biggest thing with fitness is you have to do something to keep your body moving. (9:23) Whether if it’s three days a week working hard or two days a week just doing something that’s just not too straining. (9:31) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(9:31) So, all right, we got goblet squat. (9:35) I need five well-controlled squats. (9:39) Let’s turn out this way.(9:41) So, it’s that way. (9:41) Yeah. (9:42) Perfect.(9:43) Let’s go three seconds down, one second up. (9:46) That’s perfect. (9:48) That’s one.(9:52) That’s two. (9:55) Love it. (9:56) That’s three.(9:59) Four. (10:01) Four. (10:02) One more.(10:07) Perfect. (10:07) Good work. (10:08) Good work.(10:09) Now, we got your stagger stance RDL. (10:11) I just want an easy three and three right here. (10:15) Let’s actually face out this way.(10:18) Wow. (10:19) Go for it. (10:20) So, left ahead of the right.(10:23) Yep. (10:23) So, right here, like, let’s go in step out just shoulders width.
Speaker 2
(10:27) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(10:28) Or hips width. (10:28) Perfect. (10:30) Easy three and three.(10:32) Perfect. (10:35) So, what keeps you going? (10:38) Like, I know you have some tough days where you, you know, your body probably feels like crap and, yeah, you know, you probably just don’t want to go through the, you know, the practice or do all the stuff that you’re supposed to do that day as a professional.(10:50) Like, what keeps you locked in?
Speaker 2
(10:54) You know, I think just continuing to prove to myself. (10:57) I used to be to prove to other people that I could do it, but, you know, you get to a certain level where you’re like, I want to prove to myself that, you know, there’s nothing that I can’t accomplish. (11:07) Yeah.(11:07) Because getting to this point, you know, I don’t think was easy for me, but I made it. (11:14) Yeah. (11:14) Now, it’s continuing to prove to myself, like, that you can keep going, you know, just one more minute, one more hour, one more day, one more year.(11:22) Yeah. (11:22) Yeah. (11:23) So, I would just say proving to myself, you know, you have self-doubt, but just keep proving yourself wrong day in and day out.
Speaker 1
(11:30) Can I be honest too? (11:31) Like, that next level of check? (11:34) That next.(11:34) Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2
(11:35) I mean, no, the money is definitely a motivation.
Speaker 1
(11:37) That’s for sure. (11:39) Helps a little bit, you know, motivation. (11:41) Just these two?(11:42) Yeah, for right now. (11:43) Yep. (11:44) Two at a time.(11:44) Love it. (11:46) Perfect. (11:47) Yep.(11:48) Nice and slow. (11:49) Three seconds. (11:49) One, two, three.(11:51) Perfect. (11:52) This set, we’ll only do four reps. (11:54) All right.(11:55) One, two, three. (11:57) Perfect. (12:01) One, two, three.(12:03) Hell, yeah. (12:03) Good work. (12:05) Back to the RDLs.(12:06) Three and three. (12:09) Yeah, it’s funny, man. (12:10) Like, I feel like you’ve, like, so far, you know, during this lift, you’ve kind of set the foundation and said, like, you didn’t bring up money at first.(12:18) Obviously, I brought it up and asked you about it. (12:19) But, like, that can’t be everything.
Speaker 2
(12:22) No, it can’t. (12:23) You know, because you got to find happiness in other areas. (12:27) Sure, the money is great, but this is a full-time job.(12:33) People think you just show up to the arena and get it done. (12:38) But, I mean, as you know, like, it’s a lot. (12:40) We’re lifting in the morning, getting a nap, and then lifting before games and lifting after games.(12:46) And then you got all the different appearances, and you got the family, then you got the friends. (12:50) Yeah, and you have to take care of your body, your whole, and get sleep. (12:54) Like, your whole life is wrapped around your performance for the two hours or 20 minutes, 30 minutes that you’re actually in the game.
Speaker 1
(13:01) Exactly. (13:03) Which is, it’s a very, what is a concentrated moment, but you got to be ready for it. (13:09) Oh, for sure.(13:10) You know. (13:10) So, let’s go right here. (13:12) Quick little water break first, though.(13:14) We got Rose next, and then Half-Nil Press. (13:23) So, do you, you don’t have, do you have brothers, sisters? (13:28) One brother.(13:29) One brother. (13:29) Older? (13:30) Younger.(13:31) Younger? (13:31) Yeah. (13:32) Hooper or no?
Speaker 2
(13:33) I wouldn’t say Hooper. (13:34) He plays a little bit.
Speaker 1
(13:35) Okay. (13:37) Who else in your family plays sports?
Speaker 2
(13:41) You know, it’s funny. (13:43) I, the reason why I fell in love with basketball is when I was like six, I saw my, my dad dunking.
Speaker 1
(13:49) Let’s start here first.
Speaker 2
(13:49) Dunking on the neighbor’s hoop.
Speaker 1
(13:51) Yeah.
Speaker 2
(13:51) Like across the street.
Speaker 1
(13:52) Real quick, I’m gonna show you real quick, real fast before you go. (13:54) Go. (13:55) We’re gonna go a little longer stance, shoulders over wrist, and we’re rolling right from here.
Speaker 2
(14:01) How many?
Speaker 1
(14:02) Let’s get six and six, and then you can tell me right after you get this done. (14:09) Perfect. (14:11) Brace.(14:11) There you go. (14:12) Perfect. (14:14) Love it.(14:16) Easy six. (14:21) Hell yeah. (14:23) Good shit, G.(14:28) Good work, good work. (14:31) So, you said you saw your pops dunking?
Speaker 2
(14:33) Yeah, and I was like, oh, I want to do that. (14:35) Little do you know, I don’t do any dunking. (14:38) But my uncle was a huge, huge advocate for basketball.(14:43) He loved to play, so he was real influential in my life, so I kind of.
Speaker 1
(14:48) How far did he go?
Speaker 2
(14:50) No, I think he just played in high school. (14:52) Okay. (14:53) I’m like the rare breed in the family.
Speaker 1
(14:54) I get it, but hey, it’s, it’s a thing. (14:57) You’re a rare breed to a lot of people, to be honest with you, man. (14:59) Small percentage of people make it to the NBA.(15:03) So, fun fact, I found out that, squeeze that left glute. (15:07) Found out, I think, in the history of the NBA, only 5,000 players have played. (15:13) You know, that’s actually crazy.(15:15) Isn’t that wild? (15:16) You’re one of the 5,000 to ever play.
Speaker 2
(15:18) Great fraternity.
Speaker 1
(15:19) Come on. (15:20) Great fraternity. (15:22) Come on.(15:25) What, um, I was asking, I wanted to ask you something about your family. (15:28) Oh, so when did you actually realize you can play in the NBA, squeeze this glute, like you had a chance?
Speaker 2
(15:36) It wasn’t until, like, when I got to college, like my sophomore, uh, junior year, where, like, I saw my name on, like, draft boards, and I was like, oh, I was only trying to go be an All-American. (15:49) I wasn’t, you know, I loved basketball, but I always, the best thing for me is I never looked too far ahead. (15:54) Yep.(15:55) And I feel like that’s kind of why I was able to succeed. (15:59) I just took it one day at a time. (16:01) I wasn’t looking too far ahead where I’d trip over what was in front of me.
Speaker 1
(16:05) Make every day great.
Speaker 2
(16:06) Exactly.
Speaker 1
(16:08) Let’s go feet a little further back. (16:11) Love it. (16:12) Yep.(16:14) Perfect. (16:15) That core brace. (16:17) Hell yeah.(16:18) Heck yeah. (16:20) Good work. (16:21) Good work.(16:25) So, so did you, like, did you understand, or did you think you, like, right when you first got, um, picked up, so was it Indiana? (16:33) Yeah, 2016. (16:35) So when you got picked up, you’re in Indiana, like, did you have, like, um, what’s the word I’m looking for?
Speaker 2
(16:41) That was during the headlights? (16:42) Yeah, that was the biggest struggle for me because I had only envisioned myself getting to the NBA. (16:46) I never envisioned myself playing.
Speaker 1
(16:48) Yeah.
Speaker 2
(16:48) So I think that’s why I had, like, a setback.
Speaker 1
(16:51) So you really have to. (16:53) So you went from Indiana to where? (16:55) Santa Cruz.(16:57) G League. (16:58) So you had a, you had a journey. (17:00) I had a little fall.(17:01) You had a little fall. (17:02) Or was it just the adjustment that you needed?
Speaker 2
(17:05) I think it was, it was an adjustment. (17:08) It allowed me to play through my mistakes. (17:11) Yep.(17:12) Be a part of a team where, you know, you are, like, the guy, but you kind of figure out a role that can help you be successful moving forward. (17:21) I’m with you. (17:22) Sometimes you need to be humble, too.
Speaker 1
(17:24) Good old humble pie. (17:25) Little humble pie. (17:26) Shout out Bill Belichick.(17:29) Squeeze that glute. (17:31) Yeah, here we go. (17:32) We working.(17:33) Got five. (17:34) Just five reps. (17:36) Heck yeah.(17:39) Love it. (17:42) Got a few days off. (17:43) We’re good.
Speaker 2
(17:45) Sure.
Speaker 1
(17:49) So now as a vet, on the sixes now, turning up.
Speaker 2
(17:54) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(17:55) What’s the one thing that you feel you’re able to help with on our team outside of shooting threes and doing what you do on the court?
Speaker 2
(18:04) You know, in terms of just being a guy that comes in and does, does the little things. (18:10) You know, I’m going to show up every day. (18:12) I’m going to give you everything I got.(18:14) Lift, you know, be a mentor to young guys. (18:17) Yeah. (18:18) Through my actions and my words.(18:20) Yeah. (18:20) So I think being a locker room guy for me is the most valuable thing outside of the things on the court. (18:27) In fact, you know, just heck yeah.(18:29) Kind of showing people by my actions how to do things, how to get things done, how to be professional. (18:33) That goes a long way, especially in a team setting. (18:36) Heck yeah.
Speaker 1
(18:37) Who are some of those guys? (18:38) Grab some water real quick. (18:40) Who are some of those guys that you play with over time, over the last seven years that you say were like similar to that?
Speaker 2
(18:46) You know, I would say like Joe Angles, who’s in Milwaukee now. (18:49) He was with me in Utah. (18:50) Yeah.(18:51) Al Jefferson was a really big team guy. (18:56) Yeah. (18:56) Ricky Rubio, Mike Conley.(18:59) Yeah. (19:00) You know, Ed Davis.
Speaker 1
(19:01) Ed Davis.
Speaker 2
(19:02) From that aspect, he may not say much, but when he does say something, it’s meaningful. (19:08) You should listen. (19:08) And he’s a pro.(19:11) He’s a pro. (19:12) He showed up every day, whether he was playing or not. (19:14) He lifted.(19:15) He did his work. (19:15) And I think there’s something to be said about that. (19:18) We’re leading by example.
Speaker 1
(19:19) Heck yeah. (19:20) For sure. (19:20) Especially in this space.(19:22) Because it’s not easy to show up every day, man. (19:24) You’ve got every excuse in the world. (19:26) Oh, for sure.(19:27) So we’ve got lateral bear crawls right here. (19:31) Let’s go just to… (19:33) Let’s actually keep this tight.(19:34) Let’s go to the bench. (19:38) Okay. (19:38) Let’s go to the bench.(19:40) Let’s not cross. (19:42) All the way down. (19:43) All the way back.(19:44) Just to the bench. (19:48) Get a little lower. (19:49) Get those knees about.(19:50) Yeah, there you go. (19:51) Perfect. (19:52) Heck yeah.(19:56) Good work, G. (19:56) Good work. (19:57) Good work.(19:59) Good work. (20:06) So what would you say to a young 12, 13-year-old that might have just hit his growth spurt and he’s got an opportunity? (20:17) He’s starting to get the light shine on him a little bit.(20:20) Even the high school kid.
Speaker 2
(20:21) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(20:22) What would you say to them?
Speaker 2
(20:24) I would honestly say just embrace the hard times.
Speaker 1
(20:27) Yeah.
Speaker 2
(20:28) Because anything worth having is not going to come easy. (20:32) Not at all. (20:33) So just keep your head down.(20:36) Because 13, if I think of my 13-year-old self, how far I had to come to get here. (20:41) Yeah. (20:42) It seems like millions of miles away.
Speaker 1
(20:45) We got five on the left, five on the right. (20:48) Not alternating? (20:48) No, let’s just go five on the left.(20:50) Break that thing. (20:52) Perfect. (20:54) Heck yeah.(20:54) Good work. (20:55) Good stuff, G. (20:56) Good stuff.(21:00) Good work. (21:01) Good work. (21:04) Good stuff.(21:10) Love it. (21:11) Back to the lateral bear crawl. (21:13) We’ll be done.(21:15) Actually, we got a little cool down after too.
Speaker 2
(21:17) Love that.
Speaker 1
(21:18) Perfect. (21:19) Love it. (21:21) Good work.(21:21) Good work. (21:24) Heck yeah, G. (21:25) Good stuff.(21:27) Yep. (21:28) Good control. (21:29) Great control.(21:37) What would you say the ultimate goal is for you when it comes to playing in the NBA? (21:42) How many years would you want to play? (21:44) I know sometimes guys- I mean, it’s not even that.
Speaker 2
(21:45) I think I want to play until you achieve the maximum where it’s like you’ve won a championship. (21:51) Heck yeah. (21:52) Then you can start having discussions with yourself whether waking up every day and crushing yourself is worth it.
Speaker 1
(22:01) You’re doing a great job crushing yourself. (22:03) Keep going. (22:04) Yeah, right?(22:04) Come on. (22:05) Keep working. (22:06) Keep working.(22:07) Here we go. (22:09) Easy. (22:10) Easy.(22:12) Love it. (22:20) Love it. (22:22) Oh, it’s done.(22:24) We could actually hang out right here. (22:28) So give me a couple coaches that you’ve built some cool relationships with. (22:33) You work with a lot of folks.(22:36) Here. (22:37) Take a breather.
Speaker 2
(22:40) Basketball coaches or weight? (22:43) Weight coaches, basketball coaches, mentors, whoever. (22:47) You know, in the NBA, I’ve worked with a couple.(22:50) Sean Wendell in Indiana, Andy Martin, Isaiah Wright in Utah. (22:58) Yeah. (22:58) And someone I trained with in the offseason, you know, now, but who really got me into fitness was Ryan Clark back when I was in college.(23:05) Dope. (23:06) And I think it was the biggest thing is that I would learn from Ryan Clark was just like mind over matter. (23:14) Like you’re you can put your body through so much.(23:17) It’s your mind stopping you from achieving those things. (23:21) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(23:22) Let me grab this pad real quick. (23:27) So what I want you to do is we’re going to go. (23:32) Let’s go open book first.(23:34) You don’t need to be on the pad. (23:35) Oh, OK. (23:35) So open book and all you’re going to do is just open all the way up and I want you to breathe.(23:43) I want 10 inhales and exhales and then we’ll switch sides. (23:47) There you go. (23:49) Perfect.(23:55) Perfect. (23:58) Heck yeah. (24:02) And while you’re breathing, think about basketball coaches now.(24:06) Come on. (24:09) I know you had some good coaches along the way.
Speaker 2
(24:14) So were you with Dan Burke, too, in two places? (24:17) I was with Dan Burke in Indiana. (24:19) He probably doesn’t want to remember that.(24:22) We both were there. (24:24) Yeah, that’s awesome. (24:25) Yeah.(24:26) Basketball coaches. (24:27) I mean, it started when I was a young kid. (24:29) I had a mentor, Rick Gorman, who was like my youth coach and taught me so much like so many coaches have.(24:38) It takes a village to raise like a good basketball player. (24:41) Then I had Marcus O’Neal when I was in. (24:44) I went to Tilton School, Noah LaRoche, Fred Hoiberg, Leo Papillo.(24:50) Yeah. (24:50) You know, and I learned something along the way from, you know, Quinn Snyder, who was real influential to me. (24:56) And then obviously now I have Doc, who is a Hall of Fame coach.(24:59) So you take a little bit from everybody. (25:01) Yeah. (25:01) And I think all of them have played a huge part.(25:03) Obviously, the ones that were younger played a much bigger role. (25:07) But, you know, I think I try to take a little bit from everybody as my journey goes on.
Speaker 1
(25:12) It’s a smart move. (25:16) Big time names, too.
Speaker 2
(25:19) Hey, now.
Speaker 1
(25:19) Right. (25:20) Yeah. (25:23) So let’s fast forward.(25:26) We’ve now played in the league for 15 plus 20 plus years or 20 years.
Speaker 2
(25:31) Yeah.
Speaker 1
(25:31) You won a championship. (25:33) You’ve made all the money in the world. (25:35) You’ve given back all that good stuff.(25:38) What are you doing at that point? (25:40) Are you going to turn into a coach, a GM?
Speaker 2
(25:43) You know, I love the game of basketball. (25:44) I probably want to stay in as much as I can.
Speaker 1
(25:47) Yeah.
Speaker 2
(25:47) But there’s also a part of me that, you know, basketball is a small part of my life in the grand scheme of things. (25:54) So I probably want to, you know, stay within the game, whether it’s a broadcasting, coaching, podcasting.
Speaker 1
(26:00) Yeah.
Speaker 2
(26:01) You know, find other hobbies. (26:03) I love to travel. (26:04) Real estate is always interesting to me.(26:06) I think having a balance is really key to being successful. (26:10) Cool.
Speaker 1
(26:10) I’m with you. (26:12) Having that successful journey. (26:14) So what I need is let’s go child’s pose.(26:19) Sit that butt back. (26:20) All right.
Speaker 2
(26:20) We’re going to reach forward.
Speaker 1
(26:21) Yeah. (26:22) So we’ll go straight ahead first and then we’ll go right and then we’ll go left. (26:28) Sit that butt back.(26:30) Perfect. (26:30) Perfect. (26:33) Hold that.(26:36) Hold it. (26:37) Hold it. (26:41) Let’s go over to the right now.(26:45) Good work. (26:46) How are you feeling? (26:48) I’m feeling good.(26:50) Good. (26:57) Let’s swing it over to the left. (27:04) Love it.(27:13) Done deal records, man. (27:15) Love it.
Speaker 2
(27:19) Sprinkle. (27:19) Greatly appreciate it. (27:20) Yep.(27:21) Got you, dude. (27:22) What’s up, guys? (27:23) Thanks for joining me today.(27:25) I hope you enjoyed the workout. (27:27) If I could leave you with one thing, just show up every day, no matter how hard it is. (27:31) Just show up every day.